When Ray calls him an intruder, he initially shakes his head in disbelief.
　I guess he's not fully awake yet, considering he's been beaten up.
　She looks at Ray again... and then finally understands what's going on, and opens and closes her mouth again and again.

"But... and the intruder!? Why is the intruder coming in here?"
"Whatever you say," In my case, I only came in as usual."

　Ray told me that, but since he had actually come this far after defeating the gatekeepers who had been guarding the gate, he wouldn't have come in normally.

"Well, normally..."
"Yes, that's it,"

　He was still trying to say something, but Ray stopped it.
　I didn't do anything.
　All I said was that... the researcher couldn't say anything more.
　If the man had gone through many rough times like an adventurer, not a researcher, he would have understood that what was released from Ray now was murder.
　Unfortunately, though he belongs to a dark organization called Jaya, he is only a researcher after all.
　That's why I had no idea what Ray had done, and I couldn't speak any more.

"We are intruders. In other words, I want this information. Do you know that?"

　Ray's power to ask this question was as if he were even a giant right in front of him... no, his presence was overwhelmingly superior to that of a giant man he knew.
　In terms of sheer size, Ray is overwhelmingly smaller than the giant.
　In any case, the man nods over and over again without saying anything more, wondering if he understands that it is the worst thing to do against the person in front of him.
　When Ray sees it, he nods satisfactorily and then opens his mouth.

"Well, the first thing I want to ask you is, is there a giant in this underground facility?"

　a prerequisite question
　If we were told that this was not the case, we would have judged ourselves uncooperative.
　However, a man who seems to be a researcher nods back to Ray's words.

"Oh, oh! Of course I know. However, we still don't know exactly how they are made."
"...I hear it's the effect of that slave collar?"
"Of course it is. But we don't know exactly how giants are born."
"What? Is it a magic item that you guys developed or a magic item that you made by chance?"

　If Ray and his colleagues were men who brought him as guides, he would not have to be familiar with magic items since he was actually in charge of physical activity.
　But the man in front of Ray now looks clearly nothing more than a researcher or alchemist, by the appearance of the room.

(Maybe I misunderstood?)

　It doesn't necessarily mean you're a real researcher or alchemist.
　There is a small possibility that he is a completely unrelated person.

"I'll ask you, sir, that you are a researcher or alchemist in Jaya."
"Oh, of course,"

　The man swears at Ray's words immediately.
　Maybe he was left in charge of cleaning up this room and fell asleep tired? For a moment... Ray thought so, but the idea was immediately denied by the man.

"Then I ask again, why don't you understand why the effect of that slave collar gives birth to a giant?"
"The slave's collar, and the great Black Crystal, were not made by us, but by us."

　a man who answers easily without seeming particularly difficult to say.
　I notice that the words contain information that Ray and his colleagues don't know, and I say it out loud.

"Black Crystal?"
"Oh, it's what you call a slave collar, but it's not exactly a slave collar, it has the same effect."

　What he said was completely unexpected.
　However, it was not only unexpected but also convincing.
　In the first place, the enslaved collar used in the mejogo was strange.
　The collar of an ordinary slave can be made to behave against the will of the wearer, but not to alter the will itself.
　But the slave collar used in the mejogo changes the very will of the wearer.
　That's like even a woman who is naturally a fastidious lover of relationships between men and women, working as a prostitute of her own choice.
　And Ray's prediction -- he was half sure -- was that slave's collar was the condition for giving birth to the giant.

"Is giving birth to giants one of its effects?"
"Yes, but that slave collar doesn't exactly make a giant. It is not until a man in a slave collar conceived in this mejogo where the Black Crystal has a magical influence that he can give birth to a giant."

　There's something chagrined about the man's tone.

"And what's that black crystal? Is it just black crystal?"
"No, I don't know the exact name. We call it black crystal by its appearance, but it's not really crystal."

　They try to force a woman into prostitution and even give birth to a giant, but there is no sign of guilt towards him.
　The man couldn't feel it, though all but Ray's mood was rapidly getting worse.
　Ray gets to the point when things are going to be bad at this rate.

"...I should have asked you this question." the black crystal and slave collar Didn't you all make it?"
"Yes, I'm just studying black crystals."
"Then who made the black crystal, or where did you find it?"

　If black quartz is a special kind of magical ore unearthed from somewhere, you don't have to worry too much to worry about.
　But if anyone made a black crystal... it's undoubtedly dangerous in many ways.
　Because once you make it, it means you can make the same thing again.
　Ray asks with that in mind, but the man responds by shaking his head.

"I don't know. Originally, I was studying magical minerals in other countries... flame ore, and so on. It was brought here to study black crystals."
"... were you brought in? Were you forced to study here?"

　Ray wonders if the man in front of him is being brought in like prostitutes and forced to do research, but he shakes his head again.

"Of course I was forced to bring him here." But the reason I'm staying here and doing research is purely because I want to. That black crystal, which I can hardly find out, no matter how much I study it."

　Once the man has stopped talking there, the next moment he shakes his head extensively, saying it's ridiculous.

"That Black Crystal! Why create such an impact when it's not a magic item?" I'm curious, I can't help it! It really doesn't look like something special has been done. But..."

　A man who continues to express doubts about black crystals.From the look of it, as he said, it does not seem that he is forced to do research in this underground facility.
　It was obvious to everyone that he was here because he wanted to.

(I was kidnapped, and while I was working with the kidnappers, I sympathized with them and got along with them... what was that was? Stockholm syndrome? I don't think so.)

　Ray thinks so from his knowledge in Japan, but I don't think the person in front of him is in that situation.
　Ray, however, did not see the other person suffering from Stockholm's syndrome with his own eyes; he only saw and read stories about Stockholm's syndrome in anime, manga, novels, movies and dramas.
　That's why I don't know if it's true or not, if the man in front of me really has Stockholm syndrome.
　However, even if he really had Stockholm syndrome, the fact that this man had cooperated with Jaya does not change, and he still happily explains to Ray about Black Crystal.
　At that point, Ray understood that the man had this kind of personality from the beginning, and that he was willing to sacrifice any number of people for his research.
　Men may not be aware that they are sacrificing many people, but even if they are not sacrificed directly, the fact that men are collaborating with Jaya in their research naturally leads to such results.

"Well, I understand. So you are... our enemy?"
"No way! No way!? I'm just a researcher. It doesn't matter to me who you are or who you are. Well, thank you for waking me up. I'm getting busy with a lot of research now. If my hypothesis is correct..."
"Yes, that's it,"

　The man interrupted in the middle of the conversation looks at Ray discontentedly, as if he still hasn't talked enough.
　But Ray, turning his gaze on him, told the man to shut up and look at the Elenas near him.
　What the man saw was the obnoxious faces of Elena.
　His handsome features make you realize how frustrated he is with his eyes.
　Even a man can't explain his research any more proudly than he should have looked at it as absolute zero.

"Why am I looking at you like that? I don't think I've done anything wrong."

　The man really couldn't understand why he was being looked at like that.
　However, I think you understand that if things continue as they are, they will end up in a lot of bad taste.
　Confusedly, Ray looks at her, still wanting something to be done.
　The first thing Ray did when he received the stare was to calm down the Elenas.
　though it was not a matter of fear for the man, but of the fact that if the Elenas continued to harm him in the way they felt, they would lose the information they wanted.
　...it's not wrong to worry about the man's health, though, since he stopped being injured or unable to speak to him to get information.

"Elena, Marina, Vihela, let it go."

　That's why Ray tells them to calm down their anger.
　But what Ray made at this time was that he told the three angry people to calm down... and he probably didn't say anything about the people behind them. As a result...

"Wow! It hurts! It hurts!"

　A long hand flies through the air, as if Ray were telling them to calm down.
　Ray tried to calm down the Elena's, but naturally he was wary of the man from whom he had come.
　But... no, that's why I completely forgot the last one here, Bune.
　A man is screaming at the long hand stuck in his arm.
　Ray doesn't know if he's really feeling pain or if he's just screaming pain from the scene in front of him.
　The only thing I can tell is that Bune was as mad as the other three, without expression.
　Bune is still old enough to be called a girl, but she is a fine woman.
　That's why I was repulsed by what was going on in this mejogo, as a matter of course.
　Until now, Ray had not noticed it because Bune simply didn't show his emotions.
　That's why Ray didn't understand how mad Bune was.
　...or should I say that I still recognized Bune as a child and didn't have that much of a child.
　Anyway, only Elena, Marina, and Vihela stopped.
　In other words, when Bune found himself unstoppable, he fortunately threw his favorite weapon at the man... a long hand.
　However, he was not completely beside himself with anger when he did not bring out the white clouds made of silver lion material.
　The man was lucky not to have been killed, but he wouldn't be grateful for it to a man screaming in pain.